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When I had lunch with my parents today, an argument aroused. In detail, the matter stands thus.
This morning, my mom bought a new kind of grape which is sweeter than any other types of grape and having been washed, two bunches were put in a plate as one of summer dishes on dining-table. While eating, my father said, 'I think there will be no fruit farmers would choose to plant other kinds of grape except this one.' Instantly, I responded, maybe some people only like the original taste of grape, maybe someone dislike fruits with so much sugar because of physical status and there's no completely denial in the world.' Then father argued back, this is a tendency that increasingly numbers of people will buy the 'grape' instead of that' grape', as a consequence, the original one's price is bound up to be swiftly decreased, then, no fruit farmers want to take the risk to plant that' grape'.
I understood what he pointed out-market economy's selectivity. But what I believe is, though the market will select the " winner", the option actually goes to the customers. However, taste differs from one person to another. Therefore, the prediction, in my opinion, should be put in this way, namely, high chances that the new kind is going to take up the most parts of grape market. Nevertheless, the original type still has its own place, howbeit its supporting group is no longer that stronger.
Friends here, what's your point?
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- Reply xingyue
- Actually, I more agree with your father. I think the tendency of market follows the overwhelming majority of consumers, and accordingly, the fruit farmers and even other providers would cater to the majority. In fact, I believe the true original type is hard to find in market, and most of the types are "improved". Of course, some farmers have the original type, but it must not be offered for sale. After all, the key is profitability.
- Reply Yuefan
- Thanks for your point and your comment really makes sense. But I still own a view that now that there is a group of people who only like the original type, why there's no counter-market for them to consume. Let me take an example. Since the use of cellphone is widely spread, so, not many people choose to buy a watch for a time reminder. But you know, there's also watch factory existing in the markets full of electronic equipment which is multi-purposed. Why? because, the consuming motivation still stay on some customer's hearts. Maybe they also think the cellphone is more convenience when they need to know the time, however, it is likely that, a watch, especially a well-known brand watch, such as Rolex, is a symbol of wealth for someone, or maybe some people think, accompanied by a watch can make them a more punctual person. That's just my own viewpoint.
xingyue: Actually, I more agree with your father. I think the tendency of market follows the overwhelming majority of consumers, and accordingly, the fruit far ...
- Reply xingyue
- Haha~ Your views cannot persuade me. I think watch have an internationally symbolic meaning, so it must have the market. Besides, the most ancient and original timing devices are replaced by modern watches in daily life. Finally, the authoritative judge is your mom who is the real consumer in this "event", and she knows the proportion of all types of grape; she knows why people choose this type…
Yuefan: Thanks for your point and your comment really makes sense. But I still own a view that now that there is a group of people who only like the original ...
- Reply Yuefan
- well. hah..you' re really humorous, buy my mother indeed the ‘spokesman’ on this issue. Delighted to discuss with you Xingyue!
xingyue: Haha~ Your views cannot persuade me. I think watch have an internationally symbolic meaning, so it must have the market. Besides, the most ancient and ...
- Reply laurendong
- I guess this teaches us: never try to argue with parents...
Just teasing. But for most of the time arguments of this kind do not turns out fruitful, and in bad times they even upgrade into fights...Well, hopefully it's just me and my parents.
The kernel of this argument, I believe, lies in the very nature of "grape". It's a kind of fruit, not a computer or a smart phone, which updates quickly with technology. For fruits, if they are able to distinguish themselves, there are always customers who are willing to pay for them. Technology moves on fast, and the old ones got washed out. But people's flavour changes slowly, which is going to save the traditionally consumed grape.
The risk of the old kind of grape being sifted out of the market lies in the time when the market believes no one wants them anymore, be it the truth, or just a myth. It does not make me feel comfortable thinking someday I will not be able to buy some kind of fruit I used to like, because the farmers do not grow it any longer. It has to take a lot of time until it is brought back to the market again...
Best,
Lauren
- Reply Yuefan
- OMG! someone can stand by my side ultimately. Thank you lauren.
laurendong: I guess this teaches us: never to argue with parents...
Just teasing. But for most of the time arguments of this kind never turns out fruitful, and in ...
What you've said is what I wanna explain. Have you seen the conversation above? I really want to think out a straightforward idea to convince Xingyue, but I was not well-prepared. I really appreciate your point that 'people's flavor changes slowly, which is going to save the traditionally consume grape'. I think, eating, dressing, lodging and going-out are human's living basics which are not that easy to be changed. Hence, in these four fields, despite of the tendency the new and more advances things' coming out, there are always markets for the old ones existing because of the strongly firm consumptive habit which has been developed for so long time.
So pleased to receive your point's support.
- Reply Yuefan
- Plus, my parents are also so steadfast on their viewpoints and I've never had a one battle winning.
laurendong: I guess this teaches us: never to argue with parents...
Just teasing. But for most of the time arguments of this kind never turns out fruitful, and in ... but sometimes, I just could't help arguing with them without considering the "never wins" result.
- Reply laurendong
- Well, I guess that's just the nature of you:)
Yuefan: Plus, my parents are also so steadfast on their viewpoints and I've never had a one battle winning.
but sometimes, I just could't help arguing ...
Not a bad thing at all, actually. If you are able to reach an agreement with them, the worst result would be each to his own. And that never hurts anyone.
- Reply laurendong
- Thank you, for it's always good to see someone supporting your ideas!
Yuefan: OMG! someone can stand by my side ultimately. Thank you lauren.
What you've said is what I wanna explain. Have you seen the conversation above? I real ...
I have read your exchanges of ideas, and the fact that you did not convince her lies in the divergence of your ideas. You tend to believe that the market (the need) drives the provider, just like me, while she tend to think the provider as a more dominant factor. I mean..it's not the fault of your arguments. They've been quite convincing to me XD.
- Reply Yuefan
- Yes. Her point and mine are standing on the a pair of parallel lines and it's doomed to be a vain attempt for me to completely push over her point. From this, I can draw a conclusion that, in order to convince others, the best way is not to persuade antagonists giving up their established viewpoints, but to strengthen your own grounds and manifold resources of your point as much as possible.
laurendong: Thank you, for it's always good to see someone supporting your ideas!
I have read your exchanges of ideas, and the fact that you did not convince her ...
- Reply Yuefan
- Sometimes, I am prone to take something seriously. I don't mean any offense to others when I concentrate on one thing. For me, I always consider the issue, but not the person who contradictory action. Maybe that all because I'm a scorpio
laurendong: Well, I guess that's just the nature of you:)
Not a bad thing at all, actually. If you are able to reach an agreement with them, the worst result woul ...
- Reply laurendong
- That's pretty inspiring. Always be prepared to learn something.
Yuefan: Yes. Her point and mine are standing on the a pair of parallel lines and it's doomed to be a vain attempt for me to completely push over her point. Fr ...
- Reply laurendong
- The fact that you can take things seriously proves your personality trustworthy. I'd say it's a compliment! If only more people tend to do the same thing!
Yuefan: Sometimes, I am prone to take something seriously. I don't mean any offense to others when I concentrate on one thing. For me, I always consider the i ...
